EPISODE 016 | Goin’ Solo
This week on Six Picks Music Club, Geoff, Russ, and Dave explore the phenomenon of band members launching epic solo careers. They'll dissect the legacies of three iconic groups: Traffic, Red Rider, and Million Dead. Prepare to hear about the impact of each band and how their frontmen, Steve Winwood, Tom Cochrane, and Frank Turner, respectively, went on to achieve solo stardom. But wait, there's more! The guys take a hilarious detour to investigate the subculture of men who call other men, men? Strap in for Goin’ Solo.
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Welcome to Six Picks Music Club, a music podcast for people who know that edging
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isn't just part of mowing the lawn.
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Hey hey hey, I'm your host Dave and with me are my favorite cohorts. Fuck. Alright,
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let's try this again. My favorite cohort. What's up? What's up everybody? I'm your
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host Dave and with me are my two favorite co-hosts of all time. First off, we have the
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sea lion falling from a helicopter, Geoffro. And last but not least, the dude who
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won't stop you from drinking, cooking, sharing at his engagement party, Russ. Hey guys.
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What up? What up? How's everybody doing this week? Good. Doing fine this week. Hey
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listener, how are you? Great. Awesome. Thanks. Well we are Six Picks Music Club,
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the music podcast where we three each pick two songs around a central theme
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and discuss. This week on the F, our topic revolves around artists going solo, where
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we pick a song from their early group work and later solo projects. But yeah,
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before we do anything, we got to get this week's password to get into the
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clubhouse. Who has the password? Geoffro, is it you again? Here I go again on my own.
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Is the password. Okay. And yeah, I guess that one checks out. We're in. Okay, come on in
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everybody. Find your space. It's Whitesnake. Okay. Yeah. How is that? I'm missing.
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Dude, this episode is about somebody being in a band and then going solo. Here I go again on my
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own. Yeah, okay. Now I get it. Good one. Good one. Am I the only one that's trying?
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I was getting caught up on just stupid TV that I used to watch. I didn't watch the Hard Knock
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show, the football show they do on HBO or whatever. What is with every football coach addressing their
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team as men? We already know that you're strong and endure a lot of physical pain and whatnot for
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our enjoyment, gambling addictions and whatnot. But is that necessary? Would you prefer that they
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refer to them as little women? That's not what I'm saying. It's just like Louisa May Alcott level.
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It's like they're addressing them because it's like, "Hey, I respect you and all of these other
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guys are just not professional football players." It just seems way too formal for a bunch of dudes
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that are sitting around all stinky in their jocks and towels and whatnot. Right? It's the difference
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between empire and post-empire. Mike McDaniel, the young coach of the Miami Dolphins, he's not
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going up and saying, "Listen, man," because he's like the cool, the innovative young coach.
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But I bet Andy Reid calls his players men because he's like 75 years old. Yeah.
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Vrable, he's definitely calling the guys men kind of guy. It's like, "I respect you too much to say
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guys." Dan Campbell of the Lions, I bet he calls his players men. "This is some strong men in here.
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We're men. Oh, well, you other people, you're not men." It's emasculating. I don't know. It's kind
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of weird. Does anybody else want to go eat a quad shot Americano cup right now?
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Dude, honestly, I'd rather just drink it, but- I guess if I got to eat it too, it's weird. I
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just think it's weird, but maybe that's just me. It's because you've been indoctrinated by your
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household of women that you live in. You're starting to give over to their way of thinking
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so hard that you don't even understand why a man would call another man a man anymore.
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You've lost the ability to see it. No. I mean, I think men calling another man, "Hey, man,
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what a man calling man is still fine, but man calling men is not... That's weird."
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Yeah. I don't mind if a man calls a man a man. I don't mind if a man calls men men. I do not like
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that. A group of men, men, in this formal like, "You're better than everybody." It's just, I don't
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know. Men. They're all going to die when they're 38. It's just like, "What are we...?" Oh, here we go.
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Death has reared its ugly head for the first time. Since you were talking to men, calling men men,
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which I think we can file under the heading of Dave's issues with masculinity, here's another one.
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Guys, some of their approaches to fatherhood are, "They blow my fucking mind." Because they'll be
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like, "There are just some guys out there that think that babies and kids are a woman thing,
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and they just are like, "I'll just make more kids, and then all the women will deal with them, and I
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am a free agent." They just live their whole lives like that. That shit is crazy town to me. I cannot
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even imagine thinking that. I love that he has never said anything about this, but he's had a
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daughter for three weeks, and here we go. Shit, my little baby girl really changed me in my way of
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thinking about the world. We've all been thinking that for, what, 10 years, 11 years now, right,
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Russ? Yeah. Well, okay. I heard this stat the other day. It was like 73% or 78% of millennials
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believe that they're better parents than their parents, which I think is right. Yeah, it is
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right. We're having kids later. We have internet, so we go looking to see if there's a better way
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than just beating the shit out of them. What? Let me beat the shit out of you. Okay, cool.
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Go get a switch. I'm going to whip your ass with it. Oh my God. That's the generation that I came
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from. We got hit. Get a cloth and a gallon of water. I'm going to waterboard you. Oh, lord.
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Oh my God, dad. It works. It works. There are no more Legos on the floor. I didn't say shit the
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rest of the day. Great. And it thwarted a couple of terrorist attacks that I was planning.
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I'm happy now to transition into the music portion of the podcast,
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Dave. Good, good. I'm happy too. Russ, when we thought about this topic, I know you're big on
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the, let's see, two sides of the coin thing. Tell me what you were thinking of when you started making
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your picks this week. My first pick is looking at the world around you, essentially. Okay. And the
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second pick is looking at your world. And so I took a younger post hardcore punky band who was
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kind of angry and then took it to a more introspective place from Frank Turner, who left the
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band to go solo and frankly has had a bigger career because of it. Oh, nice. Right on.
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I'll say that Russ definitely imputed a lot into the topic that I hadn't imputed. And so I just
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chose a guy that was in one band that did a song that I know and then he did another song by himself.
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Well, dang, Geoff, you want to fire us off tonight? What's the first one you want to talk about?
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Yeah, since obviously mine's the simplest. I think we've already established that. So I'll establish
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the premise. Is he on ramp a little bit? Yeah. And later we're going 115 miles per hour on the
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Autobahn doing Russ's picks, but mine are just like... Student driver. Yeah. So it is very
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simplistic, which is I was telling Russ while you, Dave, were having technological problems for 45
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minutes when we were trying to sign onto this thing. Yeah, it was a bit of a beating. And then
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you came in and ruined the call and then we all had problems and then we figured it out just to
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go back over it. But in that period of time, I was talking to Russ about, dude, I have a favorite
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new channel on Canada TV. That's what I call it. I don't even know what it is. I don't know how we
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get it. I don't know any... There's so many channels. I don't know what any of them mean. So I have a
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channel that's just called... I don't know what the channel's called, but the program that's always on
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it is called Please Rewind. And it's just old music videos. Anyway, I was tuned in, just watching music
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videos, doing some homework or whatever. And the video for Red Riders' Lunatic Fringe came on.
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Lunatic Fringe, I know you're out there. Which is a really weird 80s song. It's genre bending.
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And I was looking at the guys and there were a bunch of weird, stiff looking guys and it's a bit
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of a dark video, but in a fun way with neon lights and stuff. And then it comes down on this
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arrhythmic white guy that's singing. And I was like, who is this guy? And then it dawned on me
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in that moment. Boom. That's a younger Tom Cochrane, the Canadian artist that would later go solo.
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And I was like, dude, I didn't know he did that shit. When you hear the song, everybody's heard
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this song and it's because it peaked at number 11 on the Billboard charts in the US in like 1981.
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And a lot of people thought it was in reference to John Lennon's murder, but he actually written
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it before that. Anyway, song is Red Rider Lunatic Fringe.
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Lunatic Fringe, I know you're out there. You're in hiding. In your home, you're in your city.
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I can hear you coming. No, what's your answer?
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End it. Maybe end it a little bit faster.
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He gets on to Ross's favorite parts, the solos.
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So the great font of factual information Wikipedia claims that he wrote this song about
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anti-Semitism in the United States in the 1970s.
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Yeah. Nazism and racial discrimination, right?
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Yeah. But he decided to record this song on the evening of John Lennon's murder.
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Who?
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So that's why there was a connection to John Lennon.
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What do you guys think about this song? Well, you've heard it, right?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I wouldn't say I've heard this song a lot in my life, but I've always been intrigued by it
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because I was trying to place it and I was like, "When did this song happen?"
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I know I've heard it a number of times here and there. It's like a classic rock song.
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Right. I used to play on the radio all the time, but I've never looked at the lyrics before now.
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I'm like, "What is going on with this song?"
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I know. It's fascinating lyrics. It's about the lunatic fringe, the crazy people. It's almost
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like in some ways predicting 30 or 40 years after it came out with the internet and everything.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So it's kind of prescient in a way, but I've never known anything about it at all.
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And it's because it's by a one-hit wonder, Red Ryder. You've never heard of them. You know the
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song. It's on my playlist, but I had no idea until I saw this music video that it's Tom Cochrane
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is the lead singer of Red Ryder, which is a big deal for me for a couple of reasons. One,
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I now live in Toronto and he is Toronto born rock and roller.
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That has traveled the world and he's a good human. He's won awards, but he's also promoted
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peace and et cetera. He's a good dude.
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No, he's known for Philanthropic. Philanthropic? That's not right.
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Philanthropic is the lead singer of Pantera, right?
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But yeah, his philanthropic work, he's known for that.
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The reason that all this comes together in my life is because 10 years after this song,
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I would have been eight years old. My number one song in the world was Tom Cochrane's "Life is a Highway."
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[Music]
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I think for a while people just thought that songs had to last five minutes.
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Oh yeah.
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I love and will defend the song to you guys shortly, but it would be a great three and
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a half minute song and it is a five and a half minute song.
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I feel like there's so many songs that should be like that. 98% of the Foo Fighters catalog should
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be three and a half minute songs.
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Yeah, I guess the thinking is that it's kind of an earworm song when you get the chorus in your head,
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you just are repeating it over and over. That's kind of what the song is doing. The song is
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really giving you a lot of that chorus after a while. It's like, "Here it's coming again."
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[Singing]
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Mr. Big was heavy in the rotation for me during that era as well. For a while,
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I thought they were the same band.
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Oh, what was that song called? The Mr. Big song?
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To Be With You.
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Yeah.
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I'm the one who wants to be with you. Be with you.
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Yeah.
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Right. So-
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You thought that was Red Ryder?
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Right, because I didn't have MTV growing up. We only saw
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videos when we were at Little Caesars or whatever, some pizza place.
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[Laughter]
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That sucks so much. You had to just do a little- you had to listen to the radio
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and make little sock puppet videos.
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[Laughter]
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Fucking cousins.
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[Laughter]
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K love my oldies, baby. It was a real deal.
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Different upbringing.
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Well-
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That's why you try so hard about music, and I'm just cool about it.
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[Laughter]
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Yep.
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[Laughter]
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Just kidding, dude. Anyway, what were you saying about Life is a Highway? You thought it was a
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Mr. Big song. In my age of innocence, I thought these were the same band, but they're not.
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And I appreciate you picking it and reaffirming that for me, because with Red Ryder, it's like
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you said with the one-hit wonder thing. I knew that song, but I didn't know that band.
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Yep.
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Great with the Tom Cochrane pick there.
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Thanks. I really love Life is a Highway. It's a positive message about traveling the world,
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which Tom Cochrane is also- he's a philanthropist and world traveler. And in 2016, Manitoba,
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named a section of the Provincial Road 391, Tom Cochrane's Life is a Highway.
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So, he's got that guy.
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That's awesome for him.
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I guess it's Tom Cochrane's Life is a Highway.
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Oh, that's funny.
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Yeah, Tonight Life got it. Great. Didn't he win like eight- what is the Canadian
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award for music?
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Yeah, I just call him Canada Things. I just- he won eight Canada things.
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[Laughter]
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A Juno award winner.
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I just got- I still haven't updated about that. I just call him Canada Things.
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Russ, I would love to hear from you about your picks this week. Coming with our post-punk picks
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for the pod. What do you got? There's so many P's. Jesus.
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Yeah, love P's.
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That was like you wrote it and then said it bad.
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[Laughter]
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I wish I could say I wrote it. I just said it bad.
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Yeah.
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So, as I was saying earlier, I took a band, Million Dead, which is kind of a
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post-hardcore, high energy band who was commenting on the world around them.
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And this particular song is called Charlie and the Propaganda Myth Machine
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off of their 2003 debut album, A Song to Ruin.
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Walt Disney is pushing social and sexual hierarchy.
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May I make a bold statement?
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Sure.
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You've given us 30 picks by now, Russ, in all of our recordings.
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Yep.
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That one for me would be number one so far.
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It hangs out in that timeline where most of your picks come from.
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Yeah. I can hear that, the '90s. Is that what you're trying to say?
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I went to my grandpa file of-
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No, I'm just saying it kind of fits in there. It's like, I mean, because it kind of give off-
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It's like 2003, right?
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Yeah, at the drive-in vibes.
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Yeah.
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Stripped down and a little more raw, probably.
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Is it before or after them?
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After, yeah, for sure.
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I was going to say that it sounded like at the drive-in for sure,
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with all the tempo changes and stuff.
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It's like at the drive-in and Rage got together and just kind of had too much whiskey and then
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had this child.
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Yeah, and like, "Oh, I'm going to try to squeeze neoliberalism into the lyrics here.
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I think I can do it."
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Yeah, they definitely did.
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If you think about it, Willy Wonka had a monopoly on chocolate and candy, right?
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And in that story, and neoliberals love wealthy entrepreneurs.
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And while Charlie may have been the story's hero, everybody loves Willy Wonka.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Right? He's like the best part of the story.
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♪ Neoliberals and McDonald's and sandwiches ♪
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I love that he just starts off like getting right into Walt Disney.
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It's just like, "Oh, man. This song is about corporations."
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Man, right?
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Social and sexual hierarchy coming from Walt.
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It's just like...
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♪ Social and sexual hierarchy is coming to me down ♪
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They're going after the commercialization that starts at the beginning of our lives.
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Like as we're children, like this, where they get us and they take us the whole way, right?
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Yeah.
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I feel like the band just comes out and they just like, they grab you by the balls, right?
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And they're like, "Listen, here we go."
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Which is kind of fun.
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You got Frank Turner who is just wailing above the mix, just emoting during his screams.
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And he's also melodic and versatile within that, which is cool.
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And then he's got a pretty good singing voice too.
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So we said earlier, the song is about the commercialization of our lives,
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starting when we're children.
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And they come out, they fire shots at Cadbury, McDonald's, and specifically Roald Dahl, right?
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The song is a play on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
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Dude, I've long thought Cadbury needs to get it.
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They've been on your hit list for a while.
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Yeah, dude, they just, here's more eggs and I'm all like, "Fuck eggs, Cadbury."
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I'm moving on to omelets, you son of a bitch.
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I mean, you've always known that about me, Dave, that Cadbury just, in all of its abuses.
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Well, here's one thing, they're disrespectful to bunnies.
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That's true.
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It's like bunny blackface, chocolate bunnies.
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It's not okay.
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Oh, no.
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How have they not been canceled yet?
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That's just like-
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Are they getting bunny consent?
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Certainly not.
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And did they get the copyright infringement issue worked out with the image of that first bunny?
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No.
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That bunny that's on every one of their molds, never got any kickbacks, nothing.
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The family is destitute, it's unbelievable.
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They're living under a bridge right now.
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And you should be a billionaire.
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Whole family, all 58 of them, fucking Cadbury.
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And then there's at the end, it's like, "Hold out the arm and quiet the voice."
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This is going back to what Geoff was saying when we were talking about kids and parenting and stuff
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these days.
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And the older generations believed that children should be seen and not heard,
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and that the youth's voice and ideas, they should be silenced and just do what they're told.
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Just be formed into the person that current society wants them to be,
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apathetic and unquestioning followers.
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And I think maybe because we are spending more time with our children and treating them as people
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more so and not farm hands or whatever, you hear how Gen Z's constantly being considered more
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empathetic and kind toward each other.
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And I think it's because their parents are the ones who started this.
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Okay.
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I was going to agree with Russ that while we were all children listening to Green Day's
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Liquid Dookie record, we were coming up with better ways to be parents.
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That we were going to unleash on the world when it was time.
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Yeah, they had a plan all along.
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In 2005, Million Dead broke up and Frank Turner has gone on record just talking about how
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at the end, everybody wanted to kill each other and they were just riding around in this van.
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And he was proud of the music they made, but that band had to break up.
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So he broke out and has turned it into a very successful solo career.
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And the solo song that I'm picking tonight is called Four Simple Words off of his tape deck heart album.
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I like the way that song starts.
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I feel like this dude, he's making good music.
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It's interesting.
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It's kind of strange.
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That stylistic variation genre shift that they do where it's like he just repeats it again,
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but in a totally different style.
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That's fun.
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Yeah.
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He calls this his queen song.
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Yeah, I could see that.
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Yeah, I picked that up.
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Structure kind of like Bohemian Rhapsody.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So Frank Turner's Four Simple Words, it speaks to me on many levels.
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One of the opening lyrics is, "Colleagues and friends condescend with a smile,
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but this is my culture.
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This is my home."
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And I get that.
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I feel like he's talking about the punk rock scene.
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Yeah.
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And I feel like I deal with that every week with you guys.
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Right?
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He's like, "Oh, yeah, great.
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Cool.
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Nice one.
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Good one.
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Okay, moving on.
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Let's get to the music that we do like."
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Let's cut him off a lot and just see what happens.
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Yeah, we only have him here for our own enjoyment.
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So he's talking about the punk rock scene and pretty much the shows he's at or he goes to with
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like-minded people who just are there to have a good time, which I think is cool.
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Right.
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I think we all understand that.
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There's just some lines in here where I'm like, "Man," and I feel like it's where I'm at.
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There's the one where he's talking about he wants bands that work really hard and that they drive
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a thousand miles on no sleep and then they show it up to play super hard and then they
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move on to the next one and that whole mentality of just being a hardworking band.
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And I feel like, you know how I feel about hard work.
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Yeah.
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You think that it's equally important to kindness and helpfulness?
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Corvav, use.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I think to see a band that you know is just traveling that isn't, especially living luxury,
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and they're going out there and they're just killing it night after night, just putting on
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electric shows.
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Yeah.
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That band wants to be there.
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You cannot fake putting on a crazy energetic show bouncing around all night.
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I think you just get burned out if you weren't into it.
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Yeah, I think that's where punk rock, they're the real ones.
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You can't fake that.
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That's a real thing.
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Sometimes I go see legacy artists, I say legacy, I don't know.
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And then you're just like, "Man, they're getting paid a shit ton of money."
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And you're like, "You got to put a little more effort into that."
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I tend to stay away from-
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So you got your Neil Young and Crazy Horse tickets is what you're telling me?
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Dude, he'll go up there and he'll still grind his axe, man.
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Neil Young will impress you for an 80-year-old man.
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Envy his energy for sure.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's the band I want to see.
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Yeah.
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So earlier, Geoff said that, he said, "Man, nobody goes to opening bands."
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But I fucking go to see the opening band.
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That's where I go see, right?
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Yeah.
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Toward the end of the song, he's talking about how somebody told him that guitars were going
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out of fashion and he's like, "Man, that shit wasn't fashionable when I fell in love with it."
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And then my favorite line of the whole song is, "If the hipsters move on, why should I give a fuck?"
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Which I'm like, "Man, that's great."
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That's the mentality or the attitude, which is cool because I feel like Rock and Roll has been
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dying ever since I've been listening to it. But what does it mean, right? It's dying because you
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can't go to a club and grind to it or that it doesn't attract millions and millions of listeners
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and pack 96,000 people into a stadium. I mean, I'm not denying that. I guess several bands have
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traded in their guitars for synths, wouldn't you say? And I think that's fine if that's what they
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want to do.
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But I'm glad you brought this up, Russ, because when Rock and Roll was hegemonic, when it was the
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number one thing, which has now been surpassed by hip hop, hip hop is way more popular.
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Yeah, for sure.
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And so it was like whatever you would call Taylor Swift. That's the big stuff now and that's
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what it is. But when Rock was the number one thing, it sucked. It was horrible. It was like
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fucking Skid Row and Motley Crue and shit. That's what we were treated to when Rock was
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the greatest thing.
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Oh, no, I hear it. Yeah.
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So maybe it's better that Rock is kind of like in the resistance. It's underground a little bit.
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That's a really good point. I like that. I think you're probably right. Maybe it is good that Rock
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is fighting to stay alive in its own way.
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Yeah. You ever hear that expression, you fall in love and you get fat? I feel like that happened
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to rock music. People fell in love with it and then it just like...
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Love makes you fat.
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Love makes you fat, totally. I don't hold a lot of affinity for some of the hair metal bands of
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that era, certainly. I was listening to Amy Grant at that time.
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Baby, baby, I love you like my father.
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I want you to take me to the mall and get some leather stuff for me.
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Wait, what?
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What are you over at?
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You want me to take you to get leather?
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I will say that if you get injured, the best person to have around is Dave. Honestly,
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I know this from experience, we used to work as stage hands together at a performing art center.
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We were putting the seating element together. A bar came down and hit Karen directly on top of
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the head and it was like a big metal bar. It was the equivalent of she basically got hit in the
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head with a bat, like a Louisville slugger to the skull.
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Jeez, man.
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She falls down on the ground and I was just simply processing the series of events. I was
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sitting here looking at her like, "Oh man, you just got fucking cranked in the head by that
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seating element. Oh, are you okay?" She was dazed and obviously bleeding. I was just trying to
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communicate with her and Dave meanwhile was ripping his undershirt into to make a skull cap for her.
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This is true by the time I was even processing what was up and then he scooped her up and got
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her to the hospital somehow, all in what felt like five seconds and it was incredible.
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I was just like, "Anyways, do you think we're still going to go get coffee later or are you hurt?"
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[laughter]
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That's Boy Scout training, huh, Dave?
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Yeah, Boy Scouts grew up with all that and everything, Eagle Scout and such, but that's
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first aid stuff that we learn or whatever. I actually did do the Heimlich maneuver one time
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at work years later in 2012. I was working at an apartment store out in California. I ran
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restaurants for them.
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That sounded like the beginning of a story from a Westerner.
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I was working at an old diner in the stage coach era just on the other side where the '49s first
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pissed the tits. Wait, what? When did you do that?
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One of my coworkers was eating lunch and started choking and I had to do the Heimlich maneuver.
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I was like, "Hey, I put my hands in my throat. Are you choking?"
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They're like, "I couldn't breathe or whatever." They were doing the choking motion. I was like,
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"Okay, cool." I went around and I said, "I'm going to do the Heimlich. Is that okay?"
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They're like, "Whatever." I got around there and I gave it a jerk and it didn't come out.
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I was like, "I've repositioned and got my back into it and out of game." Then it was like,
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I don't know, it happened in 30 seconds. People were all just looking around and saying,
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"What happened just there? Are you okay?"
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Did they think that you were making a move on her like a humpback gorilla?
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I just caught feelings like in the middle of lunch.
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Jesus. We're just trying to have a sandwich, dude.
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It's one of the reasons why they don't recommend having an erection when you perform the Heimlich.
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Conk to me, it's my turn to go. Unlike Geoff, I went with some actual cool songs that are good.
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Dom Delouise laughed at that, but Jesus.
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It's a little British band in 1967 by the band Traffic.
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Oh, yeah.
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The song that I'm picking first is Dear Mr. Fantasy.
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[music]
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[music]
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[music]
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[music]
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[music]
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[music]
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Yeah, man. It's a psych rock song from the late '60s. Mid to late, was it '67?
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While Steve Winwood didn't actually write that song, he did the music.
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I am going to focus a little bit on the Steve Winwood element here.
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But yeah, I like that song a lot. It's one of those that has kind of come back into the pop
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culture world as it was used in the Avengers Endgame movie when Tony Stark is looking at
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old pictures and stuff. It is a psych rock classic and been covered by a bunch of bands like Grateful
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Dead, Crosby Stills, and Nash. It's a long one. Their live performances of it go 10 minutes long.
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Did they fade out with the solo going?
437
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Yeah, yeah. The engineer was just like, "That's enough."
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[laughter]
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There's a lot of late '60s drug references in there and talking about getting to a higher
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plane and that flute solo is a real trippy kind of feel to it.
441
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Dave's always been a sucker for flute solos.
442
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I love a good flute. The lady I took to Senior Prom, she was in the band and she played the flute.
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So maybe there is something there.
444
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The skin flute? I bet she did.
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[laughter]
446
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I did not say that. She played the instrument of the flute, not the coddly guys killing me.
447
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But yeah, so this was the titular single off of their debut record.
448
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Half titular.
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Dear Mr. Fantasy is the name of the record as well as, oh, is it just Mr. Fantasy, the album?
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Please don't be discovering an insignificant--
451
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Oh, the album is just titled Mr. Fantasy.
452
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So it's a half titular song. Yeah.
453
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Great band, great song.
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Love it. But unexplained departure, Steve Winwood never really says a clear explanation,
455
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but rumor has it that there was a little bit of a disagreement between guitars, Dave Mason,
456
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and he left the band. And then the other three just kind of wanted to pursue more bluesy,
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more folk sound. And so they all went separate ways.
458
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And Stevie Wynwood's like, "Okay, cool. I'm going to go dominate the airwaves for a while.
459
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You chumps."
460
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Good luck. Good luck making your solo Dave Mason record turd.
461
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You know, it was a little bit of a change in direction this next song that I've got,
462
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but it is Steve Winwood's "Higher Love" that is my solo pick.
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[music]
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[music]
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It's just another one that's like, let's make a three and a half minute song,
466
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five minute song. It's happening again.
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Something about the 80s. Yeah.
468
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That's almost a six minute song.
469
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Got some average male penis length there.
470
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What's the higher love that he's been waiting for?
471
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What are we talking about?
472
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Well, so they do talk a little bit about transcending beyond a romantic love,
473
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but they were like a spiritual thing. So with a partner or with God,
474
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what are we talking about?
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It could be whatever you want it to be.
476
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Is it on an airplane?
477
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So back before we had text messages, artists would get together and they would record songs
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to each other to kind of like send dick pics. And this is like, "Hey, do you want to go on a plane
479
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and get higher love?" Is that what we're thinking?
480
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What year did you say the traffic song came out?
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'67, I think is what I said.
482
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What year did this come out?
483
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This was in '86.
484
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,920
So 19 years?
485
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19 years. So he wrote that song when he was 19 years old and he wrote this song,
486
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or he wrote the music for that song when he was 19 years old and he wrote this song
487
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with... He worked with James Horner to write the lyrics for this song. He wrote
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"My Heart Will Go On." So it's like, it's kind of maybe where the contribution for like a
489
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introspective yearning nature of the lyrics comes from. But James Horner's got his touch on it.
490
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,600
Yeah, that's cool.
491
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,080
But no, it's just a fun song. It's like, you know, easy breezy, beautiful cover girl,
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if you know what I mean. So I heard more of the new Beyonce record and I feel like
493
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she just heard a Lumineers record and was like, "I can clap stomp."
494
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That's hilarious. Clap stomp, clap stomp, clap, clap stomp.
495
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I know. Oh, and they yell, "Hey, hey, ho!"
496
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I love that she's fucking with country music and I love the whole project of it.
497
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But do you think that Beyonce's "Jolene" is as good as the original "Jolene"?
498
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I think it's an interesting take. I really appreciate where she's coming from.
499
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:43,800
That is such a horse ass dude. Listen, I think Beyonce's awesome. It's not about her.
500
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,840
I'm just saying.
501
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,840
Hey, we are not going to become the pod that says like Beyonce is not awesome.
502
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,440
So get your fucking shit in line.
503
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,240
That's exactly what I didn't say.
504
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There are five million people that are going to come and kill you. They're called the Beehive.
505
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,000
I would say one of the best concerts I've ever been to was Beyonce's "Superdome."
506
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Like I've seen her play and it's amazing. She's incredible. And I love Destiny's Child.
507
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,480
But this country record is not good, is what I'm saying.
508
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360
It's a great Beyonce record. It's not supposed to be a-
509
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,280
Well, it's being billed as a country record.
510
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,520
That's just to get her a whole second group of people to buy albums.
511
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,400
Yeah, she needs some different awards, right?
512
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,120
Why are we arguing about something we agree about?
513
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It doesn't make any sense.
514
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,800
What the hell's wrong with you?
515
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It's so late. It's so late.
516
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That's going to do it for us today here at Sixpix Music Club.
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Thank you, listeners, always for joining us.
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If you have any solo artists that you think are better than ours,
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go ahead and shoot us an email at the website, sixpixmusic.club,
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or comment on the YouTube @sixpixmusic.
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Thanks again. I'm Dave, and we will see you next time here at Sixpix Music Club.
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This episode of Sixpix Music Club was produced by Finn Gomias.
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Edited by Isaac D. Snuts.
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With special thanks as always to Dixie Rex.
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